Comments on: Where the Sunny Don’t Shine

By: The_Rippy_One

The_Rippy_One — Fri, 22 Mar 2013 13:25:39 +0000

@Kermit: You could, but there would be certain difficulties – ie, getting the gametes together. First up, the cockroach can’t be the mother. Even assuming that the result would be a laid egg, even a single viable egg would eat through all of the little one’s reserves, and probably rupture the poor dear trying to lay it. If it tried to host internally…ick. just Ick. Think “Xenomorph Birth” but on a body scale, and the kid probably wouldn’t be passed the most basic (and entirely non-viable) stage.
So, this is either a mama Vidian, or a lab. Both of those are K-type scenarios, based on what a mama can host, or pay for. So, no hundreds of PK insect babies on a single litter, regardless.

Other than that, no limits, as far as I can see. There might be a bias against insect morphs, just because they’d be rare…

By: Kermit

Kermit — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:00:28 +0000

I’m kind of curious as to the limits of the species that a Celeste hybrid can mix. The containment documentation for Arikos of Nile says he’s part human and part *tiger*.

Say, has there ever been such a thing as a Vidian/Cockroach Celeste hybrid? I like the idea of a seething colony of hundreds of thousands of winged telekinetic predators with mind-control powers.

By: nikolai60

nikolai60 — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:24:25 +0000

With the exception of Rei (only known living atm at least) yes Celeste are mixed, but Touched seem to not have the same restriction, or if they are mixed they don’t seem to /have/ to show the traits of more than one species.

By: Josh.C

Josh.C — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:24:10 +0000

@Sulucamas and nikolai60: Well if the wings are the only thing disqualifying her being recognized as a Celeste that much give her a bit of an advantage when people think their simply are dealing with a Touched.

Though looking at Binary, she looks amazingly only Talmi. Wasn’t it mentioned that Celeste had to continuously mix it up with the other alien races to keep it pure? Which is rather interesting from what we learned about what Jigsaw told the children about Rei and consider Rei herself.

By: nikolai60

nikolai60 — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:04:45 +0000

I’m with Sul, she’s Touched officially but probably has power more or less in line with average Celeste, not that we’ve had enough experience in-comic to really know who’s capable of what at full tilt.

By: Sulucamas

Sulucamas — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:53:06 +0000

@Shad: It does raise the question of whether all Djinn Skin is red, or if all Paladin Retrievers are red, or if people dye their pets in the future or-or-or... what does it all mean?? xD @Vulpis: LR Ghost Busters would be perfect! :P @Josh.C: Looks like that original explanation was just saying that the difference between Touched and Celeste can be insignificant.

By: Josh.C

Josh.C — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:46:44 +0000

@e_voyager and LavaBatA1: Actually I think I read somewhere by Jigsaw that Binary just has sort of a birth defect that gave her wings of a touched. She is a Celeste with small wings if I remember right.

By: Vulpis

Vulpis — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:20:28 +0000

Something else I just noticed–this must be an exported Japanese-made ship: Gabriel went ‘Sprat’ instead ‘Splat’. 😉

By: Vulpis

Vulpis — Thu, 21 Mar 2013 00:18:36 +0000

*facepalms* Hey, Jig, a filler idea for you–Daisy, Jigsaw (and possibly Melody, just to fill out the grouping?) in jumpsuits and carrying Unlicensed Nuclear Particle Accelerators on their backs, talking to a rather puzzled-looking Alice…”Your boyfriend…he’s a dog.”

(That said, I wonder if Alice already *does* know about this, via private time together…though comments about her interests in the other mode (being a shapeshifter herself) are likely outside the rating level you want on the comments. 😉 )

By: Shad

Shad — Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:49:26 +0000

@ LavaBatA1: Big freaking wings on a chara’s back = celeste regardless of what else they have
Smaller wings in another spot = touched

I recall the author once saying that the character you’re talking about is technically a celeste due to position of her wings, but for the size. So she’s kind of on the border between Touched and Celeste.