Comments on: How Would She Know?

By: Sulucamas

Sulucamas — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 00:56:29 +0000

@e_voyager: Since both Vampires and Reapers have parts of their soul destroyed without being shattered, I don’t see why the processes involved couldn’t be similar or related. The cold specifics, though, might just be left to our imaginations. 🙂

By: e_voyager

e_voyager — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 21:52:36 +0000

@sulucamas “Death or Near-Death Experiences cause the shell to Shatter. ” it also says that “Vampires are notorious for using this method to avoid the more unpleasant side effects of Shattering” thought it doesn’t say what method they use to avoid the pain of shattering. With out that i began to suspect that they use a method similar to what is used to make a reaper. perhaps i’m reading it wrong when i think of it like this but as vampires are made with sires and the books tells us that that when a reaper is made with the help of a djinn (it doesn’t seem like it matters what sort so i think a vampire qualifies) that they some how tunnel through the soul shell giving them both the power of a djinn and the unassuming status of a sterling. the book also says that the embrace is a transformation ritual that avoids the trauma of shattering through death at the hands of another vampire and being brought back via blood allowing them to pass as normal sterling. i’m not sure what djinn inheritance is but it says that vampires have all djinn traits as well how ever that works. i assumed that means the flexible soul and improved hardiness like Alice has but i’m starting to ramble sorry.

By: Sulucamas

Sulucamas — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 07:53:38 +0000

@The_Rippy_One: We have Siege turning into a Kyuun (fire breathing goat/ponybot thing), the bling on the guns, and now nonlethal barnacles. It’s kinda hard to pin down a single focus for that, but maybe that’s the point of insanity! xD

Perhaps it’s some kind of focus on high-tech opulence (and Kyuuns…for some reason…)? Peloton already seems to epitomize this aesthetically, comparing the way it looks to Siege.

@e_voyager: People are supposed to shatter when they die, so Jigsaw should have shattered long before she was shot. Melody was talking about the shattered (and zombified) Scout Kuvaela instead.

It’s probably totally possible to silence a Cybee like a cellphone, but I think Recovery Mode is much more dire. Cybees are supposed to be life-long personal assistants and custodians, so it would seem fitting that they would enter some kind of factory-mandated hibernation when their owner dies. That said, I have no clue why Gangrel woke up when it did, aside from having a critically low battery (or acting as a plot device). 😉

@Lavabat: What’s not to trust? She’s ancient, holds a fierce grudge, and could easily bite your head off? 😛

@Jigsaw Forte: ~Volume~ 0? That’s a whole lotta story! 😀

Beggars can’t be choosers, but if we’re lucky enough to get to that point, I know I’d vote for Volume 3 instead.

By: e_voyager

e_voyager — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 00:59:20 +0000

You could be right Rippy_one but i remember when the comic was first run some comic in that are had fragments around jigsaw that looked like pieces or her memory or but i haven’t seen that image in forever. i reading it as ” you did even notice the shattered shards” before she was interrupted. or maybe she was saying shattering but with an shifted spelling such as how earth became Tearth to the aliens shatter could be shattere or shattered or something like that but i’m repeating myself now. i look forward to seeing you at the game monday.

By: The_Rippy_One

The_Rippy_One — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 23:19:32 +0000

@E: I don’t read Areal’s comment to Melody when ‘Saw was shot as “She just shattered,” but more “She is shattered, and is about to rise up pissed. Why don’t you know this?”

@Jig’: That’s a very good answer! I guess I should plan on harassing you after the comic is “done” (and the fall of mankind occurs due to the resulting grief), if you aren’t sick of us at that point ;D .

By: Jigsaw Forte

Jigsaw Forte — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:59:04 +0000

@The_Rippy_One: I think I’d have to think long and hard about how I’d be able to pull it off — it’s plausible, of course, but previous efforts (like the Year of Fear project) have fallen to the wayside before, so there’s a lot of concern about how to work on it, the size of the book, whether or not y’all would rather I just post a “Volume 0” in place of Volume 3 (which would be delayed as a result) or something similar… you get the idea.

I don’t like promising things that take a while to follow through on (RPG, anyone?), so I want to make sure I do this right.

By: Lavabat

Lavabat — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:02:49 +0000

I don’t know about anyone else – but I don’t trust the Celeste ‘Saw is with. But I probably am a lot more suspicious/paranoid than most! 😛

By: e_voyager

e_voyager — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:32:21 +0000

@the_rippy_one yes i was trying to time like her having Gangrel in her pouch and what may have taken place over those three months. and i have to agree with you remember she was marked as a dead inside by many of the skilled Celeste we’re seem (Veled , Melody , Harmony and Arikos the who who tired to kill jigsaw. if she’d landed on Celigo then chances are half the population would have been trying to kill her for reasons that she wouldn’t be aware of. maybe for the first month or so her body read as a reaper which is read as a sterling unless their item of power is destroyed or they ascend to djinn why demon could see her religion stamped on her original soul shell http://www.lastres0rt.com/2007/06/cue-the-religious-wrong/ when he stared and provoked her trying to see her dead eyes but wasn’t alarmed by what he saw …as for the events not making it into her long term memory it also looks like her vampire and normal self were dissociating from each other http://www.lastres0rt.com/2010/05/fly-already/

@sulucamas actually according the the comic she shattered when she was shot http://www.lastres0rt.com/2010/05/she-learns-fast/ i can swear i remember a comic that actually depicted the shatter but it’s not in the archives. as for why she was in recovery mode remember a Cybee is like a cell phone. jigsaw is a musician. She probably put her in recovery mode before her preference. remember it was jigsaw flat lining that trigger Gangrel to awaken and call for the police saying that there was a corpse and that she had their evidence right there. http://www.lastres0rt.com/2008/07/and-just-like-bloodwork-you-can-still-screw-it-up/ … i think i linked to this one recently…

@ all intersected : the whimsy is and area effect item / spell state of mind kind of thing http://www.formspring.me/lastres0rt/q/252130896902099603 as for the benign dictator ideal… he can set the rules mostly likely or at least set some of the guidelines but he can’t control the whimsy it self it can’t be controlled by definition http://www.formspring.me/lastres0rt/q/252130552633631828 as for the whimsyer focus … i can see two things on the ship itself or tow the huge amounts of glitter on the ship. both probably generate a lot of power that their soul can attune to the glitter being it’s tech that needs to be powered the space ship because …. it’s a space ship.

By: The_Rippy_One

The_Rippy_One — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 05:21:11 +0000

@Sul: Thanks for the invite! Email- sent!

I tend to agree, Whimsy ought to be directed (its why I favor a authoritarian style of how it works). Though, if I’m reading this right, you seem to be saying that its effect should be of a smaller scale, due to the focus of its Whimser, instead of the general warping that I posited? Works for me – what do you think the Whismer’s focus is, based on what we’ve seen so far (pure conjecture, of course)?

The station is above Celigo? *looks things up* It is! Dash it all…They better not reveal her on air, or they’re going to cavity search all the locals…Forget crashing the reunion, this is Dracula renting the Helsing’s subletted attic! How the deuce did she stay hidden for 3 months? Hey Jig,’ you open for a bonus comic commission “Last Res0rt: Episode 0”? (As opposed to the pilot, made for tv, movie…of course…)

By: Sulucamas

Sulucamas — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 04:26:24 +0000

@e_voyager: I'm pretty sure Jigsaw died, shattered, and flatlined during her Embrace, which probably caused Gangrel to go into Recovery Mode in the first place. It seems unlikely that the act of knowingly feeding on Daisy would suddenly complete her transformation into a Vampire. Fun fact: Last Res0rt Station is in orbit around Celigo. Regardless of whether Jigsaw tried to find Daisy on Celigo, it wouldn't have taken very long for her to be moved up to the station. @The_Rippy_One: They're regularly scheduled, and anyone's welcome to sit in or join in. The more the merrier! I'll warn you up front, though, that I'm not an especially good GM. :P As cool as a Whimsy that gives everyone else Whimsy would be, I think it's really a lot more basic than we're making it out to be. I get the impression that it's passive, non-directed, and relatively simple in its effect, since the Whimser's soul has been "dramatically aligned around a single focus." But, as always, who knows! Jigsaw's already shown that she can do a bang-up job of secretly feeding on Daisy (before Gangrel woke her up), so she probably wouldn't have too much trouble on the White Diamond Crisis, as long as she can avoid the security cameras.