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By: RyGuy

RyGuy — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:04:43 +0000

In the days before the otherworlder war, the purebred Celeste may well have visited earth, if you want to go with an “ancient astronaut” theory for the origin of angels. The purebred look a lot like First Temple style Cherubin, so there could be a connection there between human and talmi Jews.

By: FlashXX

FlashXX — Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:27:10 +0000

…Crap…if any of this is true, the character I’m thinking of will have some catching up to do, its either a)A darn good Libary, b) a well keep orally-resited-story, c)Jig is the only one deemed trust worthy or (and I’d find this HIGHLY unlikely) d…Rei’s race aren’t as secretive as I thought.

By: Sulucamas

Sulucamas — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:02:45 +0000

It’s hard to tell just from Daisy’s reaction whether Purebreds are more rare than they were 4,000 years ago but everyone knows about them, or they’re more common but only a few have the special knowledge to know one when they see one, or some combination of those.

@Josh.C: I could definitely see it being common Talmi knowledge, but I could also see the Hybrids spending all those millennia trying (successfully) to beat it out of them.

@The_Rippy_One: Bet you’re right about that. At first, I thought the “threat” was Rei and Captain Eyepatch, but now I’m thinking it was the Purebreds. If the older ones were “bound to Rei,” it would seem that they weren’t bound to the Hybrids, despite being their progenitors. 😐

By: The_Rippy_One

The_Rippy_One — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 21:42:32 +0000

And it’s also assuming the hybrids are willing to let the purebreds mate at all…for all we know, any pure celeste born after Rei is one that was born in spite of the hybrid’s efforts.

By: e_voyager

e_voyager — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:33:52 +0000

@josh.C that’s entirely possible. Rei was there youngest female at time but now she’s clearly and adult and we have no ideal how old there other Celeste were at the time or if there was a younger male then Rei.the Celeste may have bred with each other as well while Rei was an chile but some of them may have died of old age by now so the number of purebred my be at nine then again it may be a dozen ore more or it may be less. the only thing we know fore sure is that it’s rare for anyone to see a full bred so for all we know they could have been locked away like Rei was. on top of that we don’t know who or what the other-worlder’s were for all we know they could be the one’s who started the endless or the ones who started Vampires on earth.

By: Josh.C

Josh.C — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:36:03 +0000

@Sulucamas: I suppose we also have to take in the credibility of wha Rei actually tells Jigsaw.

But I have a funny feeling this is more of a well known story told to Talmi children from their parents. The story may be a well known story of Talmi history.

Though we also have to take into account the credibility of what others say. After all, from Daisy’s reaction and what she said, Rei’s kind might be rarer even today then way back then. Could it be possible that there might be less then a single handful of purebreds left at current time?

By: Sulucamas

Sulucamas — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:07:49 +0000

@Josh.C: The_Rippy_One’s right about the Celeste reaction to Terth. 🙂

@Vulpis: Totally possible. Just because something’s 160 times older than you are doesn’t necessarily mean it’s trustworthy. 😛

I get the feeling there might be another side to this. If the Celeste held themselves responsible for saving the galaxy, they probably held some responsibility for maintaining order in it. Selecting just one of the many races in the Connection to save the Celeste probably wouldn’t have gone over too well with all of the others. The Hybrid route may have been the most politically palatable, and likely avoided infighting against the Talmi and the Celeste.

There’s also nothing in this bedtime story saying that the Djinn and the Celeste were genuine allies back then. It could have simply been an alliance of convenience against a common enemy. 😕

By: The_Rippy_One

The_Rippy_One — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:39:04 +0000

It also might be why they turned on them to begin with – Vamps and other immortals can be frighteningly good Chess Masters, just because of how much time they have to play with. A society that enslaves is is often given to paranoia, and the potential alone might have been enough to cause them to turn on their long lived allies. If a Djinn tried it and got caught out…blood in the water.

@Josh: I think part of their shock wasn’t so much “We missed some Djinn?!” as “There’s an entirely different flavor?! And they are visually indistinguishable from normal humans?!”

By: Vulpis

Vulpis — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 13:10:43 +0000

@Josh Either that, or the Hybrids have a little problem of being nowhere as long-lived as the original Celeste…which gives them the classic information-warfare tactic of ‘revisionist history’.
Though I wonder if that might explain some of Veled’s attitudes–she’s learned similar truths to the ones Jig is getting told.
Assuming, of course, that Rei isn’t actually an Adorable Complete Monster who lied her fuzzy ass off to Jig for sympathy…

By: nikolai60

nikolai60 — Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:59:20 +0000

Hey, if the hybrids willing to enslave the Talmi over keeping themselves in power, why not declare war on the allies of the Purebreds? Make sure they’re the only game in town.